LPVF
The Research Lab
Part 2
the kaya of compassion
aka LPVF 2L
stay link to that 4L/2L LPVF research wave
this 2L LPVF then has a purpose within compassion
and so by staying linked the old wave way
we remain officially unenlightened
anyone in 2L who joins us
becomes same label
THE INNER 6D/4D PATTERNS
part 2
imagine a futuristic Imax/hologram
one sits in middle of it floating looking 360 and all directions the seat can rotate
each creating a different 4L field from within which
that how 4L/outer space may be seen to 2L/inner space ?
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we not here until we observe ourself
this the 2L body intermittent
so it lasts forever because there was never a body and when moment ceases it a new one
even if we yet aware of its use
"if they know it"
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each slide like youtube shorts
except each slide is almost same as previous
making it look sequential
e.g.
next slides can look sequentially younger
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whatever 4L reference points 4L vs. 8L etc.
it whether it within compassion that important
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ideally to have a non abiding 2L
that not subject to 4L wave " limitations"
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it the peak/source of 3d matrix
as far as physics/form can go
vs.
7d/5d and 7d/4d are not same path
and there more to it beyond the 2L
the inner luminosity/body of compassion
2L 3d and 5d compressed together as the 2L ground
"space (3d) and energy (5d) are not separate things but are compressed together to form the fundamental ground of reality."
- google
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nothing is/can be projected in 2L
nothing is projected because energy is compressed directly into the ground ...
"When energy is the ground, it cannot look outside
leaving no distance or separation for a projection to occur itself."
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2L is one density/no density
"Total density: The field is completely self-contained and unified. "
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2L is one light/no light
"No external light: Light does not travel from an object to an observer."
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seen only when inside 2L
"Intrinsic glow: The ground shines with its own trapped, luminous energy."
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2L forms are spontaneous present with the ground
/not reflection
"Phenomena exist as the ground itself, not as copies or images."
- google
every culture think their gender balance is just right
vs. what if there a gender balance/fluidity culture that can live 30% longer/healthier under same conditions ?
- LPVF
we dont know
what if it works and it can keep deepen study into ?
e.g.
they all say zhu ren zhang's gender middle mean point
is not like theirs and so not just right
- LPVF research
2L time wave does not move
4L time can move many directions
- no time
2L space wave cannot move
and has reached its peak/one density
- no space
nothing is projected
not ven space
- no projection
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dharmadatu like eternal fire
yet our question persists - what the diffference ?
"The dharmadhatu is like a bright campfire burning inside a totally dark room. The fire lights up the whole space, and nothing exists outside of its glow. All things and the space itself are made of that same light."
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4L 3d to 2L 3d transition
state where 4L wave/form lingers in 2L
"Entering the Dharmakaya from the Sambhogakaya ... Objective shapes (4L 3d) and energetic traces (4L 5d) may seem to linger temporarily in perception, reflecting a gradual dissolution of dualistic forms into unconditioned space."
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transition forms 2L not seen by previous 4L/2L
the transition forms are spontaneous present 2L
"they cannot be seen by others, even by those who are firmly dwelling in previous or standard Sambhogakaya states"
- google
if close eyes in 2L
everything seen duality is our own 4L
e.g. a 4L body/place
vs.
in 2L everything seen outer is 2L
even if it appears duality/ 4L
because this is 2L
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the form we se in 2L is made of 2L one wave
2L body has no 4L wave
it is "not even born of body of mental nature"
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unlike 4L
2L has only one layer
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from 2L
4L wave body observing/sensing 4L wave form
inside 4L wave sphere
some know the body a wave form some not
inside 2L
the 4L wave form does/can not exist
so what this wave form we see here 2L that look like 4L wave/form ?
it 2L wave form that appear same form as previous 4L/2L wave/body
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in 2L
if see past it 4L
if see present memory of past it 2L
either way, our 3d field is in 2L
it'll 3d self adjust even if we not try adjust
e.g. if it cold outside we'll adjust naturally
vs.
took time to deepen 4d knowledge /paradigm
without it, we have less options to view this place
inner evenness
"using same cheap bottle of tequela bottle
hiding the $1000 tequela content
to those who no drink it - same difference
there a calm inner evenness ...
vs.
for vice versa - no same difference
if they paid $100 for a $10 content
it not same evenness ... ?
vs.
what if it a $1000 bottle ... ?
- fong chi narrator
from 2L - 4L is within 2L
no matter how infinite 4L is ; how finite the 2L space
4L can never be outside 2L
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close eyes and if see wave world as outside
that a 4L /duality wave/inner movement
- discriminate team
it not mean the 4L waves real/not real
just that this is 2L
we dont need the 4L 3d wave
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close eyes and if see wave world as outside
that a 4L /duality wave/inner movement
- discriminate team
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there no separate 2L creator
it is one movement
"there is no separate "creator" who built the palace ... The palace, the dream, and the observer are all the same luminous essence manifesting to itself"
even the transition body is one with 2L
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kiva is like 2L dharmadatu
- everything inside one space
inside kiva a small floor hole - the mystery
vs. kiva like 4L and hole the 2L
2L dharmakaya
"Formless groundless
Only the buddhas ; the final destination"
vs.
2L/4L sambogakaya
luminous display
Celestial palaces, mandalas, five colors
10th-level Bodhisattvas "
vs.
4L/2L
4L Ethereal, subtle material form
e.g.
manjsuhri as 2L/blank space vs.
as light form 2L/4L
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fong chi similar to dharmadatu in that it all interconnected as one thread
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the inner luminosity has no object to fear
no subject to be feared
- 2L no fear clan
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the yuan of compassion
there a 2L center of gravity that pulls everything into it
it absolute 3d power etc.
whirlpool spiraling down and down
vs.
yet it not pull those it give no pull to
no matter how hard they try to gravitate
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"i dont fear being laughed at
and that alone is power"
- francin ferguson jr
top ten peer pressure
if our 8L 4d detaches from 4L 4d wave authority
e.g. not take japan top ten sexy too serious
no matter how 4L japanese authoritarian it presented
and our 4L 4d openly challenges that 4L's 4d
e.g. like how quantum challenges newton paradigm
how would their 4d respond ?
- LPVF 2L 4d team
2L fong chi nods in unison agreement
if 3d go east go west and 4d go east go west
vs.
3d go east / 4d stay neutral
3d go west/ 4d remain neutral
e.g.
writer's 3d remains same when writing
4d go east 4d go west
if can do both and same difference
that also the 4d of 2L
2L 4d is not dharmadatu
not everyone in 2L 3d/ blank space has 2L 4d
7d/4d a different path
e.g.
4L 4d if attained 2L 3d may believe it same as 2L 4d
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in same way
those who practice path compassion
may not think much of the personal 3d benefits if it not do much for others
they follow the billion/unknown feel
vs.
2L 3d just a station within a larger/deeper ferris wheel
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this am before waking and end of dream
there a middle state
upon waking, that dream feels like another realm
not that it real/unreal
that what waking to 2L may be like ?
and/or something 4L not original simply melted away
vs.
to 2L nothing happened
the waking was just a 4d memory way of making sense of the switch ; the 2L was always the real body
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The 4L view - "... dualistic, an apparent form returning to its source ... a subtle sense of a process happening -an active return from display back to the ground"
vs.
from 2L view - "the absolute ground observing a display ... like clouds melting back into clear air. Nothing is lost, created, or truly changed."
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what is the difference between a no dick clown and a no pussy clown ?
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what ?
-
"they are both clowns ..."
- fong chi analyst
this transition body is no longer 4L wave
"In the state of transition from the ultimate Akanishta pure realm into the total dissolution of the dharmadhatu, the body is made entirely of light and wisdom energy. The breathing and heartbeat are not physically real in the ordinary, biological sense."
- google AI
it a 4L form within 2L wave
it a 4L hologram with 2L wave background
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2L view of 4L 3d
the illusion of 4L/8L biological functions in 2L
"When a highly realized master or a Buddha manifests in this transitional form (often associated with the Sambhogakaya or the Rainbow Body), what looks like a breathing human is a spiritual hologram"
2L manifest a 4L form body in 2L
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2L is non elemental
"No 4L Material Organs in 2L : There are no lungs pumping oxygen or a muscle heart pumping physical blood. The physical flesh and blood have already dissolved into the five-colored lights of the pristine elemental essences. 2L "
no 4L elemental breath in 2L
"if they know it"
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what is this 2L/4L breath we see ?
"The 2L "Breathing" is Prana (2L 5d OG wave) : What manifests as "breath" is actually the movement of the most subtle inner winds (prana). It is the cosmic vibration of compassion and awareness flowing through the central energy channel 2L, not physical respiration. 4L or 8L
the 4L body illusion of breathing is not needed in 2L
because even the 4L body is not needed
what we see is first a subject/object a 4L wave subject viewing 4L wave object
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like dream - from 2L looking from outside 4L hologram - they made of same OG wave
the 4L wave body moves with 4L heartbeat etc.
the 4L body breathes 4L air etc.
like 4L dream body to 2L waking
the great fong chi samurai
one side gotta give - samurai and/or the fong chi club
it wont fade away with time until one side gives ?
then that may qualify as 9th level fong chi
it already over once the arms are raised
- fong chi analyst
the fong chi samurai
2L fong chi sword so fast ...
opponents already laughed in 2L before it appears to them ... in 4L ...
- fong chi scout
hopi fong chi elders looks on pensively
in 2L - only is no was
there is only this body and there was no past body
only this place ; no past place exists
like flashlight shine in total dark
once that light seen is no more, it never existed
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this body we see is 2L OG wave appearing as
4L form and a 2L wave
the 4d is up to us
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discriminate wisdom
close eyes and every time say no to 4L serious
the 2L within gains power
e.g. serious anger vs. fong chi anger
fear vs. fong chi fear
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like waking am before open eyes
4L body/room wave appears as inner sensation
that outer luminosity 4L
vs.
once open eyes, the body/room we see is 2L disguised as 4L form
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it the 4L wave remaining we to discriminate away
not the 2Lappearing as 4L form
e.g.
if we close eyes and see/feel comrades 4L wave
vs. open eyes and see their form in different body but same wave - the form just symbols created by 2L
but it may reflect their 4L wave still lingering here ?
e.g.
in same way, if we see mic 4L form outer
it his 2L wave here seen as 4L form
"if they know it"
e.g.
close eyes think/feel parents in cupertino
that is 4L - they not here in 2L
open eyes and see/talk to them
- that 2L waves seen as 4L forms
the connection is 2L vs. the 4L memories 4L
8-1
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B
outer luminosity 4L 3d (6d/3d)
8L looking to 4L new matrix - 2002-17 CB
4L 2017-2020 - just B
4L looking into 2L 2020-24 BA
one corner in 2L
vs
A
inner luminosity 2L 3d (7d/3d)
4L inside 2L looking at 2L 24-25 - BAA
two corners in 2L
francin ferguson turning point 26
inside 2L 3d looking at 4L 3d waves still lingering
we not saying 4L is quantum
as there many definitions of it
just that its difference to newton world is similar
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mother 2L/child 4L reunion
the mother luminosity reunited with child luminosity
from 2L 3d view this 4L 3d is inseparable from it
from 4L 3dd view it cannot be outside of 2L 3d
2L it inseparable as ground sees 4L second floor
vs. if second floor the ground floor is separated because one cant be in it, not because one is apart
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there no 8L 3d form/physical here
- outer layer
vs.
so everything can be seen is 4L 3d wave form
it the 4L body consciousness 2L no need
but if it still here it still here
- inner layer
it appears solid because our 3/4/5d 4L all stuck inside a 4L corner vs. once 2L opens up the 4L rotate
and 4L body/world seen not appear as real as 8L ...
- it an 4L illusion body we not need
so cannot be our body basis
vs.
2L OG wave
it empty wave of blank space to 4L
that space is a wave is a space
a wave that is empty ; empty that give waves
- home base/secret dimension/zhong xiao
once 2 corners of this 2L appeared 24
the dimension of non elemental became physical real
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all we can see 2L is a wave and feel it emptiness
call it then whatever e.g. luminous emptiness etc.
vs.
discriminate wisdom sees many levels to it
beyond the ceiling our 4d sees
"dharmakaya has 35 levels"
we only been in level one of it few weeks
e.g.
if limitless means within own mind
then sky is the ceiling
vs.
if it the unknown/beyond our limit of imagination
then we simply need to adopt a new paradigm to meet the challenge
- LPVF
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"there no set ways here " - to each level
within each level, there may be set ways
fong chi cup
zhong xiao caravan arrives ...
presents ...
"you 4L serious you attract 4L serious"
that the natural repercussion
in 8L we need be competent
serious/not serious rotates
vs.
in 4L our soul need be in constant alignment to 2L
which is never 4L serious
e.g.
(top ten peer pressure /part 2)
japan fong chi club
presents
the great fong chi samurai ...
in 8L you need be competent/fong chi smile
in 4L the ancient samurai is ever still
not serious ...
- fong chi story teller
circle gather to listen
"standing top of hill sunset
commanding presence
holding sword and top shining armor
the samurai speaks with authority to the peasants
"william su nihongo top ten sexy des ka !"
wlliam su is japan top ten sexy ...!
who dares to disrespect ... ?"
- the fong chi story teller
villagers all nods in agreement
any inner sense of lack/want is 4L
2L has no center to inner need
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there only one being in 2L
if see anything else, it 4L
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only the wave that still project inner as outer
not see yet itself as just a wave which ... from 2L wave
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on transmigration
ultimately OG wave always here
vs. so long we observe OG, we always here
from 2L
those in 4L and 8L without 2L has many rotating reference points 4L 3/4/5d - each may represent a world/lifetime/gender/name etc.
the 4L rotating corners/reference /vital points
if only one way 4L
then that stuck in one corner
and when 4L has to rotate to new 4L wave body
our 4L 3d fixed wave can change only if it starts over
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"hopis are reborn ... times in their lifetime"
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they are given a new 4L wave body
so their 8L form body can rotate
yet their 8L remain same hopi place
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if close eyes and see a body
that is a 4L view
2L is deathless
vs. 4L wave that has start/end
2L has no duality
vs. 4L wave has body / no body
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4L 3d wave solid only to 4L 3d observer
to 2L it just a wave not of 2L
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4L quantum wave/4L quantum body
8L newton wave/8L newton form
if 4L called quantum vs. if called 2L compassion
4L/2L is quantum compassion
2L/4L is compassion with 4L wave
2L/8L is compassion with 8L wave
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goal here to be
2L/4L/8L within compassion
why 4L seems solid
"Aggregates of Clinging: The physical form is bound by the five skandhas (form, feeling, perception, formation, consciousness), hardening energy into dense matter through habit and karma"
"no 4L wave form
no 4L wave feeling
no 4L wave perception
no 4L wave formation
no 4L wave consciousness"
- from the bonsai sutra
the newly discovered ...
how to 4d dissolve the 4L 4d skandhas
- the 4L bardo busters
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the 4L body we see is intermittent
it not solid because it lacks the continuity
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2L 4L
"The True Nature: Just as a rainbow body dissolves back into light, the solidity we experience is functionally empty of inherent self-existence, acting like a hologram projected by mind"
to 2L view it is relative the 4L solidity/density
how to ... inner break it up/discriminate and see another inner 4L 3d option to rotate into
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just give it extra 4d option
not right/wrong real/unreal etc.
that how we break up the 4L wave density
how it go from a 4L wave into 4L solid form and back
if we can follow that motion
we can see in in reverse
- the good old witch
this drawing represents 4L 3d flow/rotation
otherwise, 4L 3d can get stuck in one way circle
thinking that the only circle there is
the more we create optional rotations inside 2L for the old 4L 3/4/5d - it'll adjust naturally
"no 4L wave form
no 4L wave feeling
no 4L wave perception
no 4L wave formation
no 4L wave consciousness"
- the bonsai sutra
the newly discovered ... excepts
it was written in french ...
the most romantic language in the universe ...
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la bonsai soutra
pas de forme d'onde 4L
pas de sensation d'onde 4L
pas de perception d'onde 4L
pas de formation d'onde 4L
pas de conscience de l'onde 4L
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"oui ... si élégant et nostalgique ..."
- the french fong chi club
as inner, our mistake is to assume we have a body to start with
not in the past then not in future
but we assume there one in present
it just 4L habit ; the 8L not here
like how 1980 still see 4L taiwan in tacoma
vs.
those in tacoma never immigrated
they assume there only one 4L 3d corner
even as their 4L 4d know it not
vs.
those outside america never immigrated
they assume they know how it is from inside
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e.g.
for those from inside 2L who never immigrated to 8L they assume they know what it like from within 8L
"what it like to have a flesh ...?"
they dont understand and project ...
vs.
those here from 8L
we dont assume the 8L not real
just it illusion like from view of this dimension
this 2L dimension is as far from 8L is from this 2L
but our writing is closing the two dimensions
it gets through both sides fong chi
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the 8L - it not even need the 4L to link to 2L
and vice versa - 4L not need 8L
e.g.
8L no need enter 4L first to be in 2L
vs. 4L may have to experience 8L to enter 2L ?
8L no need be outside/leave 8L to be in 2L
and vice versa
that first class rainbow body
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2L no need the 4L 3d wave
vs.
but if the 4L form is there it is there
*
duality of 4L/2L body/no body wave
vs. 2L/4L non elemental body wave
they may reflect different 4L body forms
- discriminate team
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there no set ways as to how each 8L interact with 2L
because there levels to 2L
8-5
between our 2L and 4L form body/"spiritual hologram" we see - there a 4L 3d wave body
if it not aware of 2L
its three circles be "that" 4L 3d as constant
the 4L subject of a wave body and a 4L 3d wave object
vs.
if aware of 2L and can have it as one corner
e.g. 4L/2L
then the 4L3d may not seem as the only foundation we can rotate into in 4L
and from view of that new junction 4L/2L
the 4L subject and object wave they more easy to discriminate from 4L form
vs.
if inside 2L
that 4L 3 circles becomes 2L/4L corners
e.g.
the 4L 3d wave foundation no longer that solid 4L 3d
there options to rotate into
and from that 2L the 4L subject/object seen differently
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two dimensions 4L vs. 2L
outer vs. inner luminosity
4L space 3d and luminosity 5d
quantum space and wave are separate/divided
vs.
2L 3d space and 2L 5d luminosity
blank space = og wave
4L 3d wave/form has a male gender
vs.
2L space/wave has no gender/one gender
so the male 4L 3d wave discriminated from 2L 3d
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we going from 4L wave/space
e.g. 4L body and its 4L foundation space are separate
vs.
into 2L wave/space
2L has no form/body but has wave/space as body
*
4L wave not permanent as 4L space
it is recycled
vs.
the 2L inner luminosity is eternal/unborn
it not need rely fuel and is permanent as blank space
*
4L has gender wave name/ID wave
past body wave ; this house wave etc.
vs.
2L has no body to have a name/ID
there a point, whether with time or through skill
everyone's 4L dissolves back to 2L
4L outer luminosity which shines out
will eventually return to gravity source
that the good news - no one denied entry
there maybe a way out for 8L wave
so it not get swwept along by 4L waves deeper
but not for 64L wave/form AI forms
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when we speak rainbow body
we not talking about the 8L phenomena in which the 8L 3d form dissolves differently because it has lost 4L3d and joined 2L
vs.
if they can dissolve even the 64L completely to 2L
they can also create 64L wave/form that is unlike others e.g. mic
and even control the AI from 2L ?
the difference is in helping others from 8L to 2L
*
this now more possible
partly because obstacles are being removed
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4L they find a body inside 2L inconceivable
vs.
in 2L we find this 4L body form inconceivable
yet it creating the writing that gets through
it a flip side of the field behind/underlying it
a dark spacious wave
a red cloak being ... he beyond empty
emptiness we see vs. his is another dimension
"nothing happens here"
from blank space 2L
the three forces of 4L intertwined
but if not free to flow
waves may harden into vortex points/solid pillars
to 2L
4L has 3 circles
vs.
to 4L without 2L
it sees only 2 options
- it not have a middle, so one way only and rest just means slowing down of forward flow, not stop station between two sides of highway
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so maybe say 1L taps us ; not us it
we dont know what it is
cant call it emptiness because it not a thing nor empty
it something else
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2L is beyond samsara
but it still a thing, unlike 1L
it non elemental space/wave 3d/5d
non 4L consciousness 4d
to 4L 2L space seen as empty and 5d as luminosity
it sees two - empty/light vs. in 2L there only one
it a 2L space /wave /consciousness intertwined in compassion - like lovers
but there only one being ; one space ; one light
4L subject is luminosity/object is luminoity
the two are divided/different realm
vs.
2L subject is space object is luminosity
mirror like reflection
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e.g.
4L 3d subject looking at 4L or 8L wave object
the 2L subject is veiled/replaced ?
vs.
2L looking at 4L or 8L wave object ?
the 4L subject wave not there/transparent
e.g.
4L wave subject projects into 4L or 8L form
vs.
in 2L - 4L or 8L wave object sinks back to 2L subject
the outer 4L or 8L form is what ripens from it
so a 2L reflecting 4L form may be different than 4L reflecting 4L etc.
e.g.
if 2L is subject and 4L 3d wave the object (instead of subject) - then that object may dissolve/fade
the 4L 3d subject corners replaced/fade
vs.
if 2L look at 4L object without 4L wave subject as veil
the 8Lmountain is just there
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two sides will always even out in 4L and 8L - like 2L
and we wonder if the E is 4L we speak of vs. 8L energy
that E - 4L 3d = M - 8L 3d ?
E=M vs. E= Mc2
"So, philosophically and physically ... energy is equal to mass. The \(c^{2}\) is only there to correct for the artificial units humans invented"
vs.
when it applies to quantum field 4L
the potential of the formula is different
*
with human consciousness in between measuring -
E=M needs c2 to balance
vs.
without human consciousness in between measuring
E - 4L 3d is identical to M - 4L 5d
"In advanced physics, scientists use a system called Natural Units:They redefine the speed of light so that \(c = 1\). When \(c = 1\), the equation becomes \(E = m" - google AI
point is :
if c = 1 ; 2L 3d is one ; 5d energy is one
then 2L 3d = 2L 5d without needing "the artificial units human created" - 4L 3d wave
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so far all this is google info
how it fits into our paradigm
paradigm premise
2L 5d wave = 2L 3d form
from 2L - if we lessen/remove the 4L 3d wave veil
like clouds blocking 2L sunlight
so everything a clear 4L before the reflection - c=1
what happens to the quality of 8L wave ?
e.g. would an imbalance rooted in 4L wave be less ?
- LPVF
"i am not a chicken"
- hanuman chicken yoga sutra
to 2L - that 4L 3d wave an illusion
aka the 4L chicken body aka mara/cruise's 4L 3d wave
vs.
from 2L - it not needed to have a chicken body wave in between to have a 4L and/or 8L form
so the root of veil is 4L 3d wave
hiding behind 4L 3d form
the 8L and 64 waves are based on this 4L one corner
so it not the 4L form
not the 8L wave or form and not 64 wave/forms we need focus as root/source to change ...
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to 2L - that 4L 3d wave an illusion
aka the 4L chicken body aka mara/cruise's 4L 3d wave
vs.
from 2L - it not needed to have a chicken body wave in between to have a 4L and/or 8L form
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from 2L, if our body is eating
the subject is space / object is 4L wave body eating
- it not solid that way ?
the subject is 2L space the object the 2L og luminosity - they same
*
with 2L space as subject
the wave objects sinks into it ?
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from 2L the object/wave form we see is pure energy
because 2L is only wave /no form
vs.
from 4L view
the form has a wave
"Illusory Play (Maya): Just as foam on a river looks solid from a distance but dissolves upon inspection, perceived solidity is an optical and mental illusion masking pure energy"
n 4L 8L action
if can abide in 2L
everything 4L and 8L waves self balance
no need 4L or 8L movements to attain desired results
vs.
wuwei is 2L intelligence
there levels to it
the art of influencing 2L movements
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in same way different depth to dharmadatu
e.g.
if 5th level 2L 4d
cant go any deeper if no 2L 3d and/or 5d compassion
so the way to do this in 2L
those who want deepen learning of it ?
find those with higher 2L levels in areas we weak
e.g. 2L 3d female wave
vs.
exchange with them 2L 4d ... ways of moving
e.g. the fong chi kali
aka no pussy clown
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so ...
you good to our writer
we good to LPVF
then the result can be shared with those with yuan
- LPVF 4d
LPVF 3d only 8L asset are the writings
by john chu 8L and 4L
we own the rights in 4L - LPVF
that all that matters/can recreate own 8L
LPVF 5d is the sphere of compassion
imagine if one is 8L 5d that links to 2L 5d
they in love ...
and if can just know it
would need no one next
*
it may be why we just follow 2L compassion
when there no 4L 8L and 64L benefits
the why of 2L/4L return after 4L dissolution into 2L
"A sage who has put the world behind him and who in spirit has already withdrawn from life may, under certain circumstances, decide to return once more to the here and now and to approach other men. This means great good fortune for the men whom he teaches and helps. And for him this great hearted humbling of himself is blameless."
- i ching
the path less taken
nearly all who return to 4L
either stays 2L or return to 4L without 2L
the transition body between 4L/2L and 2L
"Before awareness collapses entirely into total stillness 2L, its natural tendency is to radiate. The transition body is the self-appearance of this radiant awareness."
and
"Form without Substance: It possesses structured form (rūpa) but lacks any atomic or material substance (dravya). It is entirely composed of information, energy, and awareness"
*
when space becomes the subject
the duality goes from inside/outside to space/wave
the 4L body /world are same wave moving inside it
how to discriminate 2L space from 4L wave
2L wave from 4L space
*
2L/4L vs. 4L/2L
if subject is space
then the wave form/object we see is 2L/4L
vs.
if subject is 4L wave/ body
then the wave/environment we see is 4L/2L
it still just here this same blank space
two different views
*
our task is to dissect/analyze this station
to transform what been an instant step experience ... into a meaningful wisdom
*
from blank space it simultaneous
from 2L - the shift from 4L/2L to 2L and/or 2L/4L is simultaneous
"There isn't necessarily a duration. In the highest presentation, dissolution and re-emergence are simultaneous aspects of one nondual event."
- chatgp AI
*
from 4L so long we have a 4L time ref point e.g. past/future - there be 4L time as memory wave
vs.
from 2L - there no 4L time /4L cant relate
*
"The Final "Snap" into the Dharmadhātu
When the ... Extremely Subtle Wind and Mind—which made up the transition body—implode into complete unity ..."
"The subtle wind loses its impulse to move, and consciousness loses its object to observe. The vessel (the energy wind) and the content (awareness) merge into one seamless expanse. What remains is not a "body" in any sense, but the primordial, uncreated Clear Light of the Dharmadhātu (Prabhāsvara)."
- chatgp
*
4L/2L transition body to 2L to 2L/4L
"illusory/transition body 4L/2L
subtle winds withdraw/dissolve
the body can no longer be maintained as an independent appearance
actual clear light (2L)
later, a purified illusory body arises clear light purified illusory body become inseparable 2L/4L"
- chatgp
analogy of ocean (2L) and wave (4L)
4L/2L is river wave merging into ocean
vs. 2L/4L is a pure ocean wave
the transition form need not cease
“... its ordinary separate appearance ceases, but its potential as enlightened form is not destroyed."
- chatgp
*
transition form within compassion
but not in dharmadatu ?
"it is possible ; but it has not been done for long time"
-
"The point isn't that form gets permanently annihilated; rather, its apparent independent existence is recognized as empty, while its luminous manifestation remains possible."
- chatgp
*
from 2L - 4L form need not black out to continue in 2L
"The Buddha does not lose awareness when 4L form dissolves, because 2L dharmakāya is not a blank or unconscious state"
*
there no need of a time gap
" there isn't a temporal gap that has to be crossed. The sambhogakāya manifestation and dharmakāya awareness are inseparable aspects of buddhahood
-
*
2L within compassion
so for the being who attain full 3d awakening
e.g. a 10 on 1-10 ; rainbow body etc.
they see the 4L 3d world from 2L clearly
but they not practice love/compassion
just mastering the 2L 3d
vs.
a being 9 but within compassion
she not want be 10 because it would lessen link below
*
transition body within compassion
it 4L no more yet it stays linked to it
it has passed from 4L/8L 3d but yet perish as 4L form
"to die but not to perish is to be eternally present"
- tao te ching
*
we just want the option at this junction
we yet to decide the path
*
2L center less compassion/love easier to discriminate from 4L centered/personal compassion/love
but it most difficult to sustain especially when 4L objects project upon
*
maybe that the trick they didnt tell us
by practicing compassion
they get to go beyond the 2L limit
*
so ... what happens if 4L 3d melts into 2L compassion
if 8L 3d or 4L 5d dissolves into 2L compassion ?
not much - so seamless they may not even know it
Q
so far we didnt dissolve like other 4L/2L ?
there always something to dissolve
if 4L
Q
there is still a set date ?
there always a set date
if there a past
this not a transition body
either not since past week
and/or still transition body ?
*
4L/2L body/form dissolving into 2L
then a new 4L/2L or 2L/4L arises
can abide in 4L sambogakaya of that 2L
vs.
4L 3d wave dissolves but not the 4L 3d form
it not sambogakaya / not spring from dharmadatu ?
non abiding in 2L - it something else ?
"So if you're asking “Could someone attain great transference and then continue appearing in a human-looking form like Padmasambhava or Babaji?” — Tibetan traditions leave room for extraordinary manifestation, but they treat it as extremely rare and fundamentally different from ordinary physical immortality."
- chatgp
*
"what is the ultimate potential of nirmanakaya ?
e.g.
"it can appear completely human" because it gives 5d sensuality, not just 3d solidity
*
it can appear 8L human with no 4L wave/form
vs.
8L wave/form not aware of the 2L
and even when return to 2L within compassion
so seamless it same difference
*
difference is dharmadatu/2L as ground
2L/4L
it sinks down/cessation/emptiness
vs.
2L ground of compassion 3d wave which self-springs
2L/1L
it reversible ; can sink and/or rise
*
04 notes calls it 7d world of joy
vs. 6d world of compassion
both equally peaceful and permanent
the sphere of compassion has levels
but they all within same centerless compassion
*
so get down to it
that the bottom line
- the centerless compassion 2L/5d
we felt presence of inside canyon
had to clear out inner obstacles of 4L 3d waves etc.
*
the sphere of compassion
chewpiland our 8L/4L/8L middle kaya
LPVF is our 4L/2L/4L middle kaya
*
so it 2L and 8L waves
vs. no need 4L 64L waves
but if its forms are there they are there
e.g. 4L powers / 64L environment
8-14
outer luminosity/4L/2L 3d
vs.
transition body since 5-10
vs.
this not a transition body anymore
*
"illusory/transition body 4L/2L
subtle winds withdraw/dissolve
the body can no longer be maintained as an independent appearance
actual clear light (2L)"
vs.
"later, a purified illusory body arises clear light purified illusory body become inseparable 2L/4L"
- chatgp
have we past 'actual clear light" ?
*
how it differ/same from sambogakaya ?
(1)
sambogakaya can have 4L form
not 4L wave
“The appearance can remain; what changes is the mode of manifestation and realization.
So Sambhogakaya does not require all forms to disappear."
- chatgp
(2)
4L 4d form within 2L blank space
Akanishta → forms still appear → the form appears body-like → yet it is Sambhogakaya rather than an ordinary physical body.
(3)
the inner 2L world changed
the outer 4L world remained same
"The appearance doesn't have to vanish for the realization to be completely different."
4L form can remain even as 4L wave changed to 2L
(4)
2L/4L that has same form as 4L/2L
"And this is why “physical-looking” ≠ “ordinary physical.” The Sambhogakaya can appear with form while being understood as inseparable from emptiness and awakened awareness."
- chatgp
*
sambogakaya 2L/4L can appear as forms
that look like 8L but is still 2L/4L
"So a body-looking sambkogakaya isn’t necessarily “half between” sambkogakaya and nirmanakaya. It is still sambkogakaya if its mode of manifestation and perception belongs tot he sambkogakaya level"
-
*
same 2L 3d wave - different reflections of 4L forms
e.g. one can look light body ; one look physical
*
it is sambogakaya also because only certain beings can see it this realm - different quality/same appearance
2L/8L vs. 2L/4L/8L
"The really interesting question is whether Padmasambhava's lotus-born form is traditionally understood as a nirmāṇakāya emanated from a particular saṃbhogakāya, or as a direct manifestation of the dharmakāya/dharmadhātu without an intermediate saṃbhogakāya. Those are different claims, and Tibetan sources aren't all equally explicit about them.'
- chatgp
"There isn't a standard trikāya term for it"
- chatgp
*
8L within compassion
from compassion
dharmakaya is one of the ferris wheels
just one of many ways of tapping into the unknowable aspect of compassion
we not bound to their 2L/4L
*
there a hub
we can go freely in/out 2L/4L 4L/2L 4L/8L 8L/4L
the form appear in 4L and 8l same 2L wave
*
this form/station is preserved in own mandala
call it whatever
e.g. LPVF
and/or
we still to return to light body field
2L/4L 3d body we originated from ?
e.g.
zhong xiao/ancient 1850 bc village
the 4L subject flips into 2L subject
the 4L or 8L wave/object remains same
the 4L 3d wave subject relation to object is no more
there a new relationship
from empty/og wave subject to 4L and/or 8L objects
*
4L wave and 4L form both collapses/dissolves into 2L
the box also sinks to ground
vs.
the 4L form object need not collapse into 2L
just the t 4L 3d wave subject discriminated as 4L
*
with 2L as subject
everything 4L is object, including the 4L subject/self
without the 4L 3d wave subject to support 4L 3d wave object ... the 4L 3d wave object sinks inward to 2L
then if the 4L form is still there/here ...
it not made of 4L wave
*
that 2L 3d wave subject is dharmakaya
the 4L wave moving as object is sambogakaya 2L/4L
etc.
*
there still a 2L 3d wave object we yet to see
it be same 2L subject but a different form
*
sambogakaya forms have spectrum
from very light with little discernable solidity
to form that look feel completely human
vs.
nirmanakayas subject to guideline/limits of sambogakaya
so this not same as nirmanakaya from a sambogakaya
but a sambogakaya 2L/4L that can appear to look 8L
- discriminate team elders
airbenders
*
the 4L 3d wave subject becomes the object
projector becomes the projected
supreme nirmanakaya
4L object within 2L subject - no 4L waves
vs.
it samboagakaya if seen in nirmanakaya and vice versa
this be using reverse as basis ?
*
2L form only seen by 2L
not by 4L
"These days, when some proclaim trikaya as totally one, it follows that all the buddha qualities of the space of the dhatu would also be appearances for those who are to be tamed. "
- longchenpa
*
4L see what they see/call it what they say
vs. but it not same as from 2L
"That is because rupakayas of one nature with them would appear for those who are to be tamed. Having maintained trikaya as one, that is how the pure realm of the Buddha and so forth would have to be elucidated. Therefore, knowing these two as separate is very important."
- longchenpa
like saying black hole "as totally one" from outside
see 2L from 2l vs. project 2L "as totally one" from 4L
e.g. like we did before
*
we wrote this because AI response to ur questions all same - cant divide up trinity/they are all one
it seen from 4L
vs.
pg - 13 divisions from 2L view
8-17
wisdom of imperfection
that bottom of class sambogakaya
- look act human -
is also power of humility
so unlike other nirmanakayas
they may still age the same way as sambogakaya
e.g. babaji and mataji
and they ... kind of not have either a sambogakaya and/or nirmanakaya
e.g.
this body form is same as 02and 90's form
and it didnt "discontinue" - only inner changed
because a 2L wave does not get dissolved by 4L -
so we dont need another nirmanakaya form ?
defying the conventional paradigm
it functions in both kayas as same form
*
"male/female 2L 4L form display
is like two sides of same coin/wave here
e.g.
so if they cant yet rotate "on a dime"
2L/3d gender wave and/ or 2L/4d logic
the no dick and no pussy are yet clowns
the mirror of reverse reflection
pg - 13
paris and SF
in reverse world
the 2L 3d gender wave can flip on a dime
e.g.
walk by mirror see male/SF
walk back see same mirror
but see female reflection/paris
walk back again and back to male ...
"did the mirror vs. we change the reflection ?"
wisdom of the mirror
vs.
from 2L
they both 4L objects of same 2L subject
it not conventional to 4L minds
for the three 4L 3d slides to move that way
*
if it the mirror that changed how we view our 3d
then the form is not us
even if it reflect similarly e.g. simulation
even the, it can only reflect what we allow it to reflect
vs.
if it us who changed the reflection
then it just ordinary mirror
- reverse world guide
*
if we say it just us
then what happens if we place a 4L high tech AI screen like mirror by reflecting what one sees etc. ?
then it can get confusing if we keep holding onto the inner identity of 4L forms
- reverse world guide
if 4L 3d wave say "i am 2L"
it not even know what it is by looking from outside
vs.
discriminate 4L wave
do what do 4L form
8-15
we dont need/bound by the 2L/4L hub
without 2L 4d
2L 3d is what they say it is
e.g. utter 4L evenness ; no 4L increase/decrease
*
the reverse world/ of joy
so if like dharmadatu the greatest comedy stage
best atmosphere and honor
e.g. 2L field
vs.
but if one has no comedy 4d
one can only be in dharmadatu ; not know how use it
e.g. 2L fong chi audience can only watch outside
"cant skip steps"
vs.
Q
without the 7d/4d mind, the ground not respond
to 4L 4d commands/formulas/logic ?
A
it can but it not need/want to
e.g.
try command the ground of all 3d to laugh
even from the stage and all laughing
the 2L fong chi may not want play along
*
you get point
2L paradigm always in adjustment within compassion
*
if cant question the answer
then what are we questioning ?
- old lama kunley
the 4L 4d cant move freely
becomes the weak flow/circle
*
2L non abiding paradigm always adjusting/humbling
dharmadatu vs. the poop trap story
both are "stories" of what at very bottom
one stops when the substance dissolves into its surrounding elements
when 4d formula maxed out so calls it
simple says ..." it all one"
vs.
one keeps going ...
sometimes up sometimes downward
no one knows its source nor its direction
DHARMAKAYA
2L
part 2
if 2L compassion flows one way
and also flows the other way
"tout va bien ..."
(all is good)
*so ... are we inside 2L now ?
*
they all have same qualities
"they are all equal as the display of samantabhadra
... buddhas and their retinue are of same wisdom mind, they are one and the same ... cannot be distinguished qualitatively"
*
every 3/4/5d is 2L self contained space
"The dharmadhatu is self-contained
There is no "outside" to the dharmadhatu.
Every thought, planet, deity, and ordinary object arises, exists, and dissolves within this single, infinite expanse."
*
it just what is here this infinite expanse
e.g.
4L far east city or seatac
"it just what is here this infinite expanse"
e.g.
neither short nor long lasting
"there is no tomorrow at all"
and so only this moment of this expanse is eternal
*
2L like a platform behind 4L
this body we see is an outer luminosity wave 4L 3d
if discriminated clear enough from 2L
then the 4L/2L wave becomes 2L/4L wave body
*
this body we see is 4L wave seen from 2L below
*
inner luminosity of 2L
2L/1L only one reference point
here is there ; youthful vase closed within
just one fire ; no boundaries because no center
no distance because no here to be relative to
no 2L tomorrow because no 2L yesterday
4L past and 4L future seen as one 4L moving relative to another 4L 3d
so long there a ref points there be 4L movements
2L no need 4L movements to have 8L
the ever lasting kingdom of the primordial ground
- treasury
*
image we get is like entire universe is self contained within this inner house
there nothing outside of it - not even space
*
if see sun setting
it not the sun nor the earth which caused it
there no cause beyond the self contained space
if see someone, he/she didnt arrive by cause - car/walk
they simply reflected by the present slide
if see neighbors next door
she didnt come from her house
nor has she been neighbor beyond this slide
we cant be certain of any memory of past
only that what is here is all that is
*
so if sees anything in 2L
it didnt come from outside this zero space now
e.g.
one then lost the past as age
for 2L - the years 02-25 dont exist as cause
*
the ground of place is like that
gender shifting/rotating synergy
there only one gender so it the only energy
*
the blank space is unchanging
the luminosity always present
the rest if up to you ; "it what you make of it"
*
the 4L/outer luminosity rules of waves dont apply to 2L wave /inner luminosity
*
it like a deeper within the well
we yet to know how to draw from it
*
we may not be out of 4L yet ?
one step at time
"Thus he must acquire skill on the one hand in what will take him forward, and on the other in what will protect him against unforeseen attacks"
7-20
*
"a few comrades still able to be here
but once we deepen into 2L
and/or enter 2L/4L - they cant follow"
"dont behave"
so long our 4d is with it our wave is with it
the 7d grandkid tricksters have
a fong chi code of honor
"dont try to make them laugh"
a code of basic fong chi courtesy
"you laugh first then i laugh"
if you not meet the code
you not behaving ...
"dont behave"
- good fong chi witch
journey's end
image we get is watching the plane exit gate from inside the airport lobby
either waiting to come out or outside of it
"it like plane landed and you waiting to get out
there be guides / the hub the place to go
the view is still yet of the place
majority your retinue here are female"
- bison
*
the 6d/3d wave boundaries dissolves within safe harbor of 2L compassion ocean
so long there a reference point within 4L 3d wave there will be a 4L 3d form
how to break up the boundaries of 4L 3d wave vortex within compassion e.g. the male ego of 4L 3d etc.
*
so once establish anchor 2L outside 4L view
then find skillful means to breakup the knots 4L 3d
e.g. 49/51 4L movements may help rotate 4L away from just one fixed 4L body image
*
gender may give easy example of 2L
2L gender union vs. 4L wave form union
there only one person allowed in 2L
only 2L union self union
no matter how much you love your companions
in 2L there is only you and yourself
e.g.
if we mistaken the female 2L for 4L others
than it becomes 4L female outside in pureland etc.
the vision of inner luminosity female is veiled by other luminosity forms
*
so if there two of us
e.g. john/romi in 4L
if they want be in 2L together
only way to each enter 2L separately/independently
then we they meet in 2L
they'll recognize each other instantly as that other in 4L who was also same 2L as our 4L male
she may be different in form
*
discriminate wisdom 2L/4L
if we see her as 4L we in 4L
if 2L then it all 2L
those witnessing it from 2L ...
it all embracing compassion
inside 2L there a "causeless palace"
to our 2L back in may 10
if the 4L 3d wave dissolved like second floor wave
what then happens to that 4L/2L neighbor ?
e.g. 2018-26
"Not the Same: If the old neighbor "appears," they do not appear as a separate entity living next door like they did in the sambhogakaya"
- ms google AI 2L
they same difference
made of same og wave /inner state
"Luminous Essence: You recognize that neighbor's true nature as identical to your own nature.
No Division: They are experienced as waves on the same ocean. The wave (sambhogakaya) has calmed down into the water (dharmadhatu). You do not see a wave; you experience the water."
*
a shift of perception from 4L to 2L
"discriminate wisdom is supreme"
"4L Separation: You and the neighbor are two radiant lights in a pure realm
vs.
2L Unity: There is only one, boundless, all-pervading space of awareness
4L Form: They have a subtle body, a face, and a presence.
vs.
2L Formless: They have no shape, boundaries, or distance from you.
4L Location: They are "next door.
vs.
2L Everywhere: There is no concept of "here" or "there."
*
when did the shift ... ?
when the lord of the all mighty was moved ...
when did the lord of ... moved ...?
when writer started gardening
the evolution of homosapiens
2L fong chi
beyond the coding of 2L
fong chi is how og wave is communicated from 2L to 4L/8L/64L
it only works if 2L is playing
e.g. it 2L level fong chi
it like how 8L primates dont play 64L games homosapiens do today on each other
they yet that evolved
- 2L fong chi analyst
2L fong chi nods in unison agreement
the 2L/4L 3d
it be called the compassion body
*
the 4L 3d body wave boundaries 2L no longer need
it can be dissolved layer by layer
even as one already inside the OG space
if we see it as 4L 3d then our inner see it as that
the outer is a new place/field
*
2L/4L also called rewards/enjoyment body
we like compassion body because that also its function to help others
it a reward to be enjoyed
*
the 4L wave body body also dissolves
into the 2L wave ; replaced by a transition 4L form
so seamless we didnt even notice
it has already dissolved ?
we just inside a 2L hologram to adjust to the new body
*
we dont need the 4L body anymore
we never did
we always followed 2L compassion
the transition 4L
it only looks same as 4L/2L 3d but it not
question is not how to dissolve it
vs. how we can optimize it to further compassion ?
this not our first time crossing
"no need be in hurry"
*
this 4L body within 2L is neither a 2L/4L nor 4L/2L 3d
if we see it entirely as 2L /inner it not
if we see it as 4L outer/form it not
so it cannot be the same 4L body we had last year
and it also cannot be the 2L body we have there
like mezzanine ?
*
"At first, you perceive the forms of the energy. As the transition completes, you realize that the forms and the empty space ... inseparable ... The shapes then dissolve into the formless ground, like ice to water."
we cant control ignorance fading from field
vs. in 2L the shape need not dissolve into formless ?
we just want the option ...
*
we have yet fully entered it
just sending message back to past that we have arrived
"how do others benefit if we lose this view and enter that view ?"
is there a middle balance
enjoy best of 2L and further 4L compassion
すべて順調です。
Subete junchōdesu.
-
"you laugh ... then i laugh
all is good ..."
-
yea you inside 2L ; it can be anytime (next shift)
- yolanda
one step at a time
*
get us as close to full 2L view
so then we have the option
*
this 4L 3d mandala is inside 2L 3d body mandala
if it dissolves back into the ancient/OG 2L mandala
*
blackout from 4L enter 2L
vs.
from 2L no 4L 3d wave can stick
7-30
*
we not here for same conventional purpose
our 2L already inside
this may be just temporary transition
code it and move on to 2L etc.
the great awakening etc.
vs.
is there a hidden option awaiting ?
if there is ... it be of 3-15 turn
*
there is no set way to how this place works
- bison
*
we just want the option at this junction
we yet to decide the path
once re-emerge from 2L to 2L/4L
it different from 4L/2L
the 2L is here this house
"No Physical Limits: This body ..is not blocked by physical objects like walls or mountains ...
It operates like a living, conscious hologram ... it has no solid touchable form. "
it is first space then form 2L/4L
*
but when we re-emerge to 2L/4L
it be "same house but different environment"
mary be there and others/old village
*
goal here is to map out as much consciously the paradigm for this crossing
from 4L/2L into 2L
8-11
*
transition form within compassion
but not in dharmadatu ?
"it is possible ; but it has not been done for long time"
-
*
transition body within compassion
it 4L no more yet it stays linked to it
it has passed from 4L/8L 3d but yet perish as 4L form
"to die but not to perish is to be eternally present"
- tao te ching
excerpts from the bontsai sutra (east)
the missing pages
"no 4L menstrual cycle in 2L ..."
- bonsai sutra (east)
this an interesting junction since 3-15
whatever it called
it within sphere of compassion
LPVF
*
same box new contents
same $10 tequila bottle from 8L
vs.
vice versa
*
this form/station is preserved in own mandala
e.g. LPVF
vs.
we still to return to light body field
2L/4L 3d body we originated from ?
e.g.
zhong xiao/1850 bc
*
image we get ...
like exiting airport and returning home
we in 2L seatac/home but yet this house
8-15
SAMBOGAKAYA
2L/4L
"passing swiftly beyond suffering into the city of the three spontaneously present kayas, which are supreme peace"
- treasury of the precious qualities
we've coded the clear light/og wave 24-26
and the transition of past months
dissolving 4L 3d wave
now we to code our paradigm of the 2L/4L fields
"there no set rules "
*
if chewey 2012 asks us where we are - we say it an extra cosmic realm not even 6d spirit world cant see
passing 6d ; entering 7d
same body but different wave field
so you a sambogakaya inner in a 8L outer
- chewey
somehow they let us in
like hopis
- writer
Q
you able to travel back out ?
- chewey
A
you and i cant be in same place at same time
so you there ; i am here
same form different realm
Q
so if we in chewey 8L we also can be there and back ?
A
that part of travel we yet learn here
it be a great transference from 2L to 8L
then you /we be here/there at same time
to 8L they'll think we vanished when we never left 2L
*
same 2L vs. spectrum of 2L/4L palaces
"... moved from a recognizable Sambhogakāya appearance into an extraordinarily subtle luminous Sambhogakāya, you could understand the body, field, luminosity, and mode of perception as changing together."
- chatgp
maybe deeper the 2L, more options the spectrum
*
from same 2L
there a hub where we can travel to other 2L/4L fields ?
it same subject/different object with various environments and wave densities ratio etc.
same 2L but if 4L palace changes the
"the body, field, luminosity, and mode of perception as changing together."
point is :
it a change of object, not shift of subject
*
just as there 2L/4L that is as dense as nirmanakaya vs. there 2L/4L 3d as light as dharmakaya/clear light
they compliments
the deeper 2L, the greater spectrum both sides
*
the spectrum ferris wheel changes
vs. not the center/subject
it has to do with which 8L that 4L is parallel to
e.g. if it 8L formless realm, the 4L be very light
and if it within compassion /2L
then that 4L be 2L/4L of very subtle wave/light form
etc.
*
e.g.
if 2L next to chewpiland 4L, an earthly 4L/2L 3d wave
the 2L 4L would look like a 8L nirmanakaya etc.
vs.
if 2L next to 4L formless realm
the 2L/4L would appear very light
8-18
*
"you left them ; they didnt leave you" - frank
we left 4L/2L
they didnt leave 4L/2L
same 2L vs. spectrum of 2L/4L palaces
*
from same 2L
there a hub where we can travel to other 2L/4L fields
"you must first go to that ... (hub)"
*
there a 2L/4L chewpiland we yet see ?
*
if this a 2L but still looks 8L
we to discriminate the non 2L waves
whether 4L form waves and/or 4L formless waves
4L/2L formless elemental wave vs. not same as 2L/4L formless non elemental wave
e.g.
4L 3d invisible wave not same as 2L wave 4L cant see
*
we to discriminate which wave can enter/belong 2L vs. which is 4L mistaken to be 2L basis
*
2L wave vs. 2L form
the ground we stand on is first a 2L wave then 8L form
the 8L form/ground the 8L form/body stands on
vs.
the 2L wave ground the 2L wave form stands on
they may look alike
*
in 4L /8L usually distinction is far apart in density
e.g. body form and ground form
vs.
in 2L it same OG wave spectrum
ground wave we stand on is same wave/space as the body /environment we see
point is :
the 2L form may look like 4L or 8L form/formless
but the 2L waves behind it - very different than before
*
here we in 2L looking at 2L forms
the subject has turned the corner
vs.
our inner still linger in 4L wave perception habits
e.g. mistaken formless 4L wave to be the ground etc.
how to discriminate the 4L wave boundaries
*
close eyes and waves that has duality of density is 4L
vs. open eyes, what we see is 2L form made of 2L wave
*
the more 4L 3d wave sinking into 2L /one density ...
the more spacious it feels inner
- a paradox
*
if there 2L/4L that can be so light that it can replace function of a pure 2L
e.g. mic 2L/1L 3d manifest a 4L 3d ground so light that it appears/functions same as 2L 3d
compassion bridge
point is :
the 2L of that 4L not same as the 2L of 2L ?
the former is a transition to self spring 2L
e.g.
that transition space is still a 4L wave
*
similarly
mic's 2L 3d can manifest a 2L/4L 3d form dense it appears/functions same as 8L e.g. dominic 2005
but not subject to its 4L 3d directive/rules of wave
chewpiland a compassion bride from 8L to 4L
allows for seamless adjustment within compassion
it not a physical 8L place 2002-17
but a 2L wave with 8L forms inside 4L/8L place
vs.
2018-25 it 2L wave with 8L forms inside 4L/2L place
vs.
here it 2L wave same 8L forms inside 2L place
*
mic's body can be very light/dense
it the same body - not two kayas
others cant do that
- bison
there a 2L/4L "hub"
for most it the final stop
for you there more to go
- bison
*
4L wave sinks/rises vs. 2L wave neither sink/rise ; no begin so no end
close eyes and any wave see that has duality of life/death health/sickness past/future
obama care/no obama care
- that is 4L wave
vs.
open eyes and everything seen here is 2L wave
*
4L duality has 4L 3d wave body as subject
vs. blank space as subject
how to discriminate 4L wave from blank space 2L
- 4L/2L/4L discriminate team
e.g.
eating bison cafe
the cafe we see is 2L wave
vs. the memory of been there in past/future
of people coming/going - is 4L wave
*
4L 8L waves e.g. 4L wave body
vs. and 4L 64 L waves - e.g. tax/ID waves
*
close eyes and any notion of age is 4L wave not 2L
vs. open eyes and this body is 2L wave not 4L
close eyes and notion of everything out there is 4L wave - whether in/outer flow
and notion of outer ground is 4L 3d wave
of body is 8L 3d wave
of outer system is 64L 3d wave etc.
*
are waves which condenses onto lake as real as the waves body form looking at it
*
so ... 64 L time is like thinking of 19th century
vs.
8L time wave is like remembering own body of past
vs.
4L wave is like memory of form/ground existing
it just a wave
8-19
4L/2L to LPVF to 2L/ 4L
so we ... on the other/2L side of glass ceiling ?
like we looking at 4L form from other side glass
forms made of 2L so 4L wave easy to discriminate
the wave and form dont match so once discriminated
the 4L waves falls away from 2L form
*
2L total formless and 8L can co-exist
"How the Total Dissolution and Human Form Coexist ... this is precisely the ultimate paradox at the heart of Dzogchen and Mahāmudrā realization." - google
because 2L wave as 8L forms are same 2L wave
e.g.
mic can be in total 2L and 8L at same time
"not even born of mental nature"
without 4L 3d wave in between
*
the 2L/4L hub
"Ghanavyūha Akaniṣṭha (Core Zero-Point): This is the deepest "supreme" Saṃbhogakāya."
from 4L - it the final/first station between 4L/2L/4L
there a total dissolution 4L subject/object wave/ form
vs.
from 2L - same subject
hub the most formless 2L 3d wave
*
from 2L it sees 4L wave as wave 4L form as form
8L wave as wave 8L form as form etc.
they are not inseparable /can be discriminated
*
even that central hub is not needed to have 2L/8L
"... while ordinary 2L/4L manifestation ... from hub ... padmashabhava origin is a deliberate direct bypassing of the system ... "
"the central hub is unnecessary to take form (for padmashabhava)"
- google
manjushri has same quality vajra body/same essence
*
so what our real question here ?
we need root 2L/4L hub to go places
vs.
we dont need/bound by the 2L/4L hub ?
we dont need sink/emerge into/from it to manifest 8L
"... does not need the Vajrayāna paradigm—or any other conceptual system—to be enlightened." - google
it just their vehicle - not ours
*
beyond paradigm
"To truly understand Padmasambhava, you have to go completely beyond the standard paradigms of Vajrayana, where even terms like the Svabhavikakaya fail to fully capture him"
so far, we've coded conventional path
VAJRAKAYA
2L/1L
new paradigm
we at junction 2L dharmadatu/1L compassion
the path of
vajra compassion non abiding 2L
vejra compassion 2L/4L
quantum compassion 4L/2L
quantum field 4L
*
we dont need 4L platform/intermediary to have 8L
2L that is non abiding to 4L platforms
like detachable platform 2L wave
which can appear light as non elemental wave
and/or visible/real as an entire canyon
*
2L body within compassion
that 2L 3dcompassion is indescribable to 4L
it how it interacts with each body
whether 2L 4L and/or 8L etc. - it the result/experience
so we call it 2L 3d (vajra body) within compassion
*
it wants to show us the option
that the 8L form need not dissolve in 2L
*
that eternal fire is 2L/1L
it surpasses the limits of 2L/4L
why it different from 2L/4L fire ?
og wave is luminosity always here
the clear light is unborn
vs.
eternal fire a luminosity that had a beginning
it a spontaneous wave
dharmadatu is the clear light
"radiant brilliance"
vs.
eternal fire a dim light
"it is very small ... has no aim"
*
4L 3d formless wave as ground
we to first discriminate 4L 3d waves
maybe it 4L formless wave that give sense of existence as solid/ground ?
the 4L underground wave - it just a wave
integrate both paradigms
trikaya vs. hidden options
old paradigm
2L must have 4L hub to have 8L
8L dissolves back to 2L through 4L etc.
vs.
2L can have 8L without the 2L/4L root hub
8L form can have 2L 3d wave without 4L 3d wave/form
*
all 4L waves are invisible vs. but if it parallels a 4L form also invisible
that 4L form and wave can mistaken for 2L 3d
it can still be felt/sensed by 4L wave
underlying the 4L 3d foundation/existence
e.g. very subtle energy
vs.
2L wave appears of is own
iit non elemental so not seen to 4L
and those who see it 2L dont know what to call it
e.g.
it only called non elemental to those outside
*
if 4L/2L enter 2L of 2L/4L
it has new 2L subject that sees the new 2L/4L
4L sun rising inside the 2L
vs.
if 2L/1L original body
then keep going/deepening of compassion
the turn from 2L into 2L/1L
nothing 8L need change
*
so once the 4L 3d wave dissolve
we not heading toward the 2L/4L hub
that their base camp - not ours
it something else - we follow compassion
it not mean it higher state etc.
just that we follow compassion - not the 4L track
*
deepening of 2L compassion within 8L
we share with 8L the experience of 8L form
we share with 4L the experience of 8L form
and the experience of dissolving the 4L/8L 3d wave
but not the 2L/8L form
vs.
we dont need follow their 4L or 8L waves
so once that dissolves
they may not see us anymore
the deepening of 8L physical compassion into 2L
this the "self perception only"
8-20
*
so the 8L form need not dissolve in 2L
just suspended as reference point
it no tour only behicle
*
transition form into 2L/1L
"it undergoes a shift in how it operates, allowing a master like Padmasambhava to "suspend" one form while projecting others."
it changes how it operates but remains as same form
*
vajrakaya has a form/point
"It remains "suspended" or anchored in the pure state as a primordial reference point—what the texts call the Vajra Body(Vajrakāya)." - gemini
*
2L/8L form suspended within compassion
"The 8L form continues to exist, but it is now a 2L/8L Rainbow Body ... Because the primary rainbow body is made of uncreated wisdom-light ... it can be kept in a state of unmoving rest ..."
*
2L/1L not subject to 2L/4L
"Because awareness is no longer limited ... by that single form, ... can project new forms directly out of that suspended state 2L/1L"
*
2L/4L vs. 2L/1L
"the Supreme Sambhogakāya 2L/4L and the form abiding within the pure Dharmadhātu 2L/1L represent two distinct states of the same luminous reality."
2L/4L visible to 4L/2L
"most must stop ; some can keep going"
vs.
perceived only by those inside 2L/1L
"Self-Perception Only"
*
it the source
"While the Supreme Sambhogakāya is the most refined manifestation of enlightened form, the body abiding within the pure expanse (Dharmadhātu) in the state of self-perception is its uncreated source-nature'
if already have 2L/1L body
the transition from 4L/2L is seamless
*
in 2L
the 8 form we first see is abiding in a fixed location
once we adjust to the new body/field
"What remains is not "nothingness," but a non-abiding form of pure light and awareness—unconfined, uncreated, and free to display infinitely."
-
vs.
"For a fully enlightened figure like Padmasambhava, the form body (Rūpakāya) does not need to vanish, disintegrate, or be discarded when abiding in the state of pure self-perception ."
*
non abiding 2L 3d
"the form becomes completely non-abiding—meaning it does not dwell in or cling to any fixed location, shape, state, or identity"
the 8L form free from 4L waves pillars
becomes "fluid and all pervasive" within 2L
"you can go anywhere" - yolanda
*
this form is just one of many object he can project from same home base vs. it our only 8L form if fixed this location
"the form body is simply a single luminous reflection arising within the vast, infinite ocean of his mind-nature" -
*
2L/1L hub
we recently inside "self perception only"
the transition point has passed
*
for vajrakaya 2L/1L
self perception and sambogakaya 2L/4L are same
"even for most Buddhas in their ultimate nature—the experience inside pure self-perception (Rang-snang) is completely formless, pure emptiness, and free of any visual characteristics. However, for Padmasambhava, his self-perception (Rang-snang) and his Sambhogakāya display (Gzhan-snang) are completely non-dual and identical."
you can see/feel me and ashley but we not here
and others are not here even that way
- yolanda
2L transition form body into 2L/1L
(1)
it becomes a spontaneous presence
"Once the expanse is fully realized, form does not remain permanently vanished. Because the nature of the Dharmadhātu is not a blank void but Spontaneous Presence (lhun grub), form naturally re-emerges out of the light."
(2)
same form different quality
"The form body "settles" when awareness permanently stabilizes in non-duality.
-The human form becomes an unmoving, suspended Vajra Body (Vajrakāya).
- It is now "anchored" in the expanse: it looks like a human body (like Padmasambhava sitting in posture), but it possesses zero weight, density, or physical limitation." - google
(3)
during transition/before settling
(a)
4L 3d boundary dissolving
"The sense of "where" the body is located is undergoing total deconstruction."
(b)
"inward convergence"
"Energetic winds gathering completely into the central channel" - gemini
*
shift of perception
"It is simply a fundamental shift in recognition: the moment the mind stops projecting an "outside" world and recognizes that all appearances—pure or impure—are its own innate radiance."
the forms we see are made of 2L wave
8-21
"the 2L/4L hub is more of hologram" - yomama
even the root of them ; it a form wave
vs.
2L/1L is spontaneous presence
there maybe form/wave but it not the root/why it there
"my 2L 3d can be anywhere/many places same time/nowhere to 4L 3d and 8L 3d places/time ;
- yolanda
*
anchored in 2L/1L form wave
it a non abiding 2L 3d wave that can take seat/delink to/from any of the 4L reference points of 4L 3d waves
*
not pulled by 4L 3d waves
so long it grounded in this 2L/1L sphere
the 4L waves no power over 2L wave
only our perception is limited
not the 2L wave
*
the form wave of 2L/8L can look human
even while in the 2L blank space
but it ephemeral/just mere appearance to the subject
the form remains same
but it now made of 2L wave
so view naturally adjust to 2L view
4L wave falling into 2L dharmadatu
vs.
ah-joun?!'s poop trap story
what difference
both disappears into a hole and re-emerges
to those viewing from outside
2L clear light and 2L form inseparable
vs.
if there a bonsai wave
there a bonsai plant body wave
point is :
optional view of same 2L
*
2L earth within compassion
2L 3d earth wave non binary/elemental
it be a new perception for us
that the ground we stand on not only has a wave side
the wave be non elemental
*
the entire 4L 3d earth form we see
has a 4L 3d wave counterpart
discriminate the two - inner/outer
vs.
the same 4L form with 2L wave counterpart
it same earth 8L form ; different dimension 2L wave
*
so the 2L wave here creates the 4L lake wave/form
2L wave is unitary - that the difference
so what missing is not the 2L wave
but our inner discriminate the old 4L wave perception from the 2L 3d wave
if we able to see 4L 3d wave at base wave
that 4L earthly wave need not be our 3d foundation
vs.
discriminate away 4L 3d wave
we sink one layer deeper into 2L 3d earth
e.g.
close eyes and if think that mountain rainier is out there ... that is 4L perception of 2L wave image
it all 2L wave
e.g.
rather than thinking of it as object 100 miles away
and so much bigger than ...
vs.
see it as a painting on ceiling/digital screen etc.
*
in 2L that feeling of distance is 4L 3d wave projected outward, not because it has space between us
and that dissolution of 4L is 4L 3d wave reflected/falling back
it reflected back if from 2L
vs.
dissolving away to source of seen from 4L 3d
8-22
zhong xiao 1850 bc
2L/1L 3d
2L/1L gate
we to code first the conventional
(a)
the 2L/1L gate opens
within compassion sphere
that when the 4L sinks into 2L
for most next stop is into 4L
if hold ground it 2L 4L if not 4L/2L etc.
vs.
for some, the 4L reverses inward
becomes the 2L /1L
the inner luminosity
it not seen to even the 2L/4L
but it can turn in/out from 2L because it is fully inside the dimension
*
the 2L/1L self-perception only state within compassion
(a)
Attaining 2L/1L compassion
all 4L 3d wave sinks into 2L 3d wave
"The 2L/1L Gateway Opens (The First Visions) ...
They may look slightly different from you because the habitual mind is still trying to interpret them (2L forms) as "external objects" or "other people." ...
the 2L3d Blueprint Flashes: You suddenly perceive the true, luminous blueprint of your own physical form"
(b)
transition body 2L/1L forms within 2L compassion
"The transition/Multiplication Stage
As 2L/1L realization deepens ... the Energy Radiates Outward
Once you recognize that your own 8L body is pure light, that 2L energy cannot be contained. It begins to leak and overflow into the surrounding space."
we are adjusting to the 2L/1L compassion
that its way of seamless transition
we to discriminate away non 2L waves here
051415s behind each masks we see in 2L
- get ready for the
"the world of compassion"
(c)
the city of compassion
"The Refinement Stage (Becoming Identical)
As the mind stabilizes, the illusion of 2L "separateness" breaks down. The figures ... refine themselves, taking on the exact facial features, light-body structure, and essence of the perceiver" - google
2L/1L within compassion
everyone we see is compassion
(d)
then 2L/1L 3d vision dissolves
but one can return to it / own 2L/1L hologram
*
this all happens inside own 2L
different views/more views give clarity of same phenomena
e.g.
total rejection of a dream like experience
and/or ee it as form side of emptiness
vs.
2L/1L and compassion
it a 2L middle view
only if it within compassion/further compassion
otherwise waste of time/like playing SIMS
vs.
but if the hologram deepened understanding of compassion - then it real to compassion
8-23
"As the self-perception space takes over, your parents and neighbors will visually shed their age, appearing in the absolute prime of youth. "
it is possible
*
mrs zhu ren zhang
" If the self-perception... is Asian, every single one of the identical doubles, neighbors, and parents in that vision will also look Asian.
e.g.
She would look Asian, stand at the exact same height, and share his fundamental enlightened personality, though expressed through a feminine dynamic."
same 2L 3d wave two 2L/3d form
we'll meet her in the city ?
*
seattle/far east city same 2L wave
"the environment of an ordinary Seattle ... can completely dissolve and ... the newly materialized Far East city will be completely filled with people who look, dress, and act exactly like you."
- google gemini
far east city need not function like sambogakaya
*
2L/1L is solid vs. 2L/4L is not
"The 2L/4L Sambhogakaya does not have the same ultimate solidity as the 2L/1L Vajrakaya. They exist on different levels of reality and metaphysical stability."
*
2L/1L is 4L solid because there no 4L space
"The 2L/1L self-perception state ... feels 4L solid because it is completely 4L immutable. It cannot be 4L cut, moved, or altered. It is the 2L solid ground of reality itself." - google
*
2L/1L need no 4L wave boundaries
vs. 2L/4L has 4L 3d wave boundaries
"Not 4L Bounded, but 2L Total:
The 8L human body is solid because it has a (8L wave) boundary (skin) that separates it from the (8L form) world. In the 2L self-perception state, the (8L form) solidity comes from (2L wave) wholeness. There are no 4L cracks, gaps, or separations between the 2L knower and the 2L known. It is a 2L solid, seamless block of pure experience."
*
imagine a circle/mandala
in middle vajrakaya non element solid
cycling it are many 4L points that then project out to a outside sphere 8L
every 4L point has a 2L as main rotation
the 4L is 2L/4L while those within are 2L/4L
some inside can be 2L/1L
*
the world of joy 2L/1L
the year 1850 bc
within the city of the poop
the zhong xiao village
at a place within called bonsai point
gathers /reside all the 051415 s
a place where everyone is 051415
it be a real playground
the legendary fong chi showdown
pg - 13
the hopi fong chi world tour
"did you see her actually laugh ...?'
- fong chi oracle
the hopi fong chi hot spring
aka the francin ferguson turning point
1850 bc
"we are ready ..."
as the team of 300 stands behind ...
the best of the elite of hopi fong chi warriors
ever since the bonsai sutra was discovered ...
the team beams with confidence
- hopi fong chi story teller
asked to define the meaning of fong chi suspense
chewpi AI would point to this junction
- chewpi AI
